If you’re from Southern California you can understand my obsession with Tommy’s Chili Burgers. Their tomato-less chili con carne is very unique to the SoCal Region, often found smothered on anything you can imagine—from fries & hot dogs to burgers.
The Original Tommy’s was opened in 1946 by Tommy Koulax. The original location is still standing on Beverly and Rampart Blvd. in Los Angeles today (as well as 30 other family owned locations). A favorite of students from USC, who often line up in droves after a night out.
Tommy Koulax hit the jackpot with his top secret chili recipe. His chili sauce is a tomato-less chili con carne, that’s spiced and seasoned to perfection – it’s thickened with flour to create a creamy, thick chili sauce that’s very unique to Southern California Chili Sauce (Pink’s & The Hat are other famous restaurants serving this style). My copycat recipe comes very close to replicating Tommy’s in taste and texture. Mexene Chili Powder (purchase here) and Gebhardt Chili Powder (purchase here) are two amazing chili powders that are must haves for this recipe if you want the chili to taste great.
Reverse engineering this recipe was one of the most difficult tasks I’ve encountered as a chef. The cult following of Tommy’s Chili is so strong that entire forums exist to share tips and tricks to replicate this spicy treat. After desperately trying them all (with great disappointment) I had to jump through many hoops to deliver this amazing copy directly to you! I even went so far as researching the origins of chili con carne, chili powder, and chili dogs to help me determine what techniques and ingredients Tommy would have been using at the time he created this magical chili sauce.
Below is a timeline of events that helped me piece together my copycat recipe for Tommy’s Chili:
1860 to 1930’s – The many “Chili Queens” such as Martha Garcia and Sadie Thornhill open up food stands and introduce the legendary dish chili con carne in San Antonio, the Chili Queens are credited with popularizing Mexican American cuisine and are the foremothers of what we know today as Tex-Mex
1896 – William F. Gebhardt, the inventor of the chili powder, started selling bottles of his concoction and called it Gebhardt’s Eagle Brand Chili Powder. In 1908 his company published a cookbook, Mexican Cooking, in an effort to introduce and educate the American public about Mexican food – the book included several recipes for chili con carne
1906 – John Walker develops Mexene Chili Powder in Austin, TX – it becomes one of the most popular chili powders in Texas and the recipe has stayed the same for over a 100 years
1914 – Fort Wayne’s Famous Coney Island Wiener Stand – opened in Fort Wayne by three now-unknown Macedonian immigrants, serving a fatty pink hot dog with a “peppery-sweet” coney sauce on a soft bun – this appears to be the very first rendition of a chili hot dog
1917 – American Coney Island – opened in Detroit by Constantine “Gust” Keros, serving a hot dog on a steamed bun with loose chili (a Greek-inspired meat sauce), mustard, and chopped onions
1936 – Chasen’s – opened by Dave Chasen in Los Angeles and served the most famous chili “Chasen’s Chili” loved by Elizabeth Taylor, J. Edgar Hoover, Clark Gable, Eleanor Roosevelt – the recipe uses Gebhardt Chili Powder
1939 – Art’s Famous Chili Dog Stand – opened by Art Elkind in Los Angeles, started by serving two main items hot dog with chili and tamales with chili, his chili is the thin, saucy type – appears to be the first person to serve chili hot dogs in California
1939 – Pink’s – opened as a pushcart by Paul and Betty Pink in Los Angeles, they served a chili dog accompanied by mustard and onions on a steamed bun – the chili was thickened with beef fat, browned flour and water which “stretched” the portions during the depression and created the unique texture and flavor which is synonymous with California hot-dog chili sauce.
1946 – Tommy’s Hamburgers and Hotdogs – the original stand was opened in Los Angels by Tom Koulax, the original stand sold hamburgers, hot dogs and tamales topped with chili – Tommy’s chili is California style – a tomato-less chili con carne thickened with flour and water, very similar to Pink’s. Later known as “Original Tommy’s Hamburgers” because of all the Tommy’s knock off restaurants that popped up in Los Angeles
Browned Flour to thicken the chili, this gives the chili a bolder flavor and keeps the chili a nice dark color when thickened
My version on the left and Original Tommy’s Chili on the right. You can clearly see that Tommy’s version has a much higher fat content. I used 80/20 Ground Beef and didn’t want to add any additional fat – I browned my flour in a dry pan and mixed it with water. Tommy’s probably creates a brown roux using beef tallow and flour.
Gebhardt Chili Powder (purchase here) and Mexene Chili Powder (purchase here) have been around for over 100 years, they are a must have if you want to replicate the recipe. Chili powders are all so unique and so many of them have different spices and proportions, it’s important to have the right chili powder for this recipe. I did try using one or the other, but I got the best flavor using a combination of both chili powders.
Chili Cheese Fries made with my copycat of Tommy’s Chili.
22 Comments
Karla
August 22, 2018 at 10:08 pm
You posted a picture of the chili cup, does it have an ingredients list on it? I think I can make out the word “Ingredients” on it. If so, what does it say???
Van
August 22, 2018 at 10:56 pm
Hi Karla, the chili cup does not have the ingredients listed, Tommy’s doesn’t have an ingredient list posted anywhere – that’s why their recipe was so hard to figure out.
Jodi
January 15, 2021 at 6:39 am
Thanks so much for this! I made it last night, it was really good. I miss Tommy’s so much and go every time I’m back home! My family enjoyed it as well, made chili fries and chili dogs.
Dom
February 11, 2023 at 1:53 am
I am soooo EXCITED to try this! Tommy’s Burger is so nostalgic for me. My parents, aunties and uncles all grew up in LA and use to eat at the small OG location. Everytime I visit I get one.
Karla
August 23, 2018 at 9:30 am
Years ago I bought a chili cup to go with an In’n’Out burger and it listed ingredients, now I wish I had taken a picture of it.
Van
August 23, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Tommy’s chili on a double double would be amazing!!! As far as I know, they have never printed an ingredient list anywhere.
Mike
November 29, 2018 at 9:20 am
The original recipe has Cloves in it. Believe me. Try it but just a little. Use ground.
Heidemarie
April 10, 2019 at 9:38 am
I like adding chorizo to my Tommy Chili recipe. I think my ex grandmother in law was right. It may be the secret ingredient
AnnA
November 14, 2020 at 7:54 pm
Ive always told my husband that!
C. Koulax
June 30, 2020 at 9:05 pm
There is no ground beef in the chilli- tommys grandson
Van
July 1, 2020 at 4:24 pm
I’m not going go into detail how I found out, but I know the ingredient list of the chili because I know who the supplier is and there is definitely beef in the chili – I just don’t know the exact spice mix. Either he never taught you the recipe or Original Tommy’s has been lying for 70+ years.
This is posted on the site:
ALR
September 8, 2020 at 10:31 am
Tommy’s uses RC Provisions chili con Carne https://www.rcprovision.com/chili/ as a base. They sell it at Smart & Final stores.
Eagle Rock
July 4, 2023 at 2:53 am
I’ve watched cooks chop and add hamburger patties to the vat. Not sure why they’d pay for a chili blend when they are cooking burgers all day.
Brian
September 27, 2020 at 1:41 pm
You seriously did it. This tastes just like Tommy’s chili. Thank you! This is awesome.
I will note though that at no point does the recipe ever say to add the Ancho Chili Powder, though it does list it as one of the ingredients.
Van
September 27, 2020 at 7:09 pm
Thanks Brian, I updated the recipe to include the ancho chili powder in the instructions. Glad you enjoyed it!
Steve
October 15, 2020 at 5:49 am
I tried this last night, I have lived in Southern California and moved to the Seattle area and I have been craving Tommys ever since, this recipe is spot on – Thanks
Russ Utsler
November 10, 2020 at 3:23 pm
Have ingredients, making chili tomorrow, burgers next night for dinner.
Moved to Columbus, OH in 2018 and missing The Shack. Will be eating in driveway, outside the car as per my Dad’s instructions. RIP Pop.
Peter
December 27, 2020 at 3:11 pm
Thanks for posting this — great job with the recipe! I made the recipe for the first time last night. As an LA native, the Tommy’s run is a sacred ritual, and always on the agenda whenever I travel down there. But, because we didn’t make it for the holidays in this pandemic year, I resorted to get my Tommy’s fix by making my own.
I ended up mail ordering the Mexene chili because I couldn’t find it locally (Bay Area), and subbed pasilla chili powder for the ancho powder. The flavor is really really close — as close as I’ve come using different recipes I’ve found online. Your comments about the chili powder combination making the difference are spot on. Slopped that chili onto a burger, and the flavor was very familiar. It tasted great!
The only flaw I found was that the texture ended up a little bit mealy. I had made the Kevin Is Cooking recipe a couple of weeks ago, and while his flavors were off (he’s a SF native, so he didn’t grow up with Tommy’s like we did), his recipe does get the texture closer. The flour mixture in that recipe calls for 2/3 all-purpose and 1/3 masa flours with 2 cups of water (no barley flour and no browning). When pouring that into the chili base, the mixture was watery.
With the flour mixture in your recipe, I got something much pastier and that seemed to translate into the chili itself. Not sure if mixing more water with the flours would help make it smoother, but I’ll try that next time. Also, I was using purple barley flour and 85/15 ground beef.
Looking forward to making more of this chili when we finish up the current batch. (Also plan on making a vegetarian batch using Beyond Beef.) Tried it on a hot dog today, and it also hit the spot!
For the real Tommy’s experience with the hot dogs, go with either the Papa Cantella or Evergood all-beef franks with the natural casing. Cantella is Tommy’s current hot dog vendor, while Evergood supplied Tommy’s for many years prior. I use Evergood, since they’re made in San Francisco and easier to find in the Bay Area. Steam them up and it tastes like I’m back at the Shack!
Van
January 10, 2021 at 5:00 pm
Thanks for trying it out, next time trying using ground beef with a higher fat content. Tommy’s has grease sitting on top of the chili, so at least 20% fat is needed, closer to 30% would be better if you’re trying to get it closer to the original. And you could add more liquid to the recipe if it seemed to thick or grainy. I checked out Kevin is Cooking’s recipe, it appears that he simply adapted my recipe and adjust a few ingredients without crediting my original recipe – sorry but you can’t simply recreate it only having it once. I’ve enjoyed Tommy’s for the last two decades and found out who the supplier was, that’s how I was able to come up with my ingredient list.
Mark
September 11, 2021 at 11:22 am
Great post, its almost chili season and I’m going to try this recipe….Love Tommy’s Chili! However, I’ve read Tommy’s used XLNT Chili Con Carne in the past https://www.xlntfoods.com/chili-con-carne so will be incorporating that chili starter with this recipe to dial it in.
Tom
April 16, 2023 at 6:48 pm
Born and raised in SoCal ,now live in the south,one of the few things I miss about it is Original Tommies.Have tried other recipes but they just weren’t ever right, yours is definitely the best I’ve tried, pretty much spot on. Was like eating a memory! Thanks.
Van
April 16, 2023 at 7:35 pm
You’re welcome Tom, I’m glad you liked it! Try using ground beef with a high fat content to get it closer to Tommy’s